I am aware that AI programs often 'hallucinate' and decided to see what will happen if I share the following verse (inspired by that day's mystical experience) with GPT-4
"Born of Samadhi Ray and Harmony of Thought within the Realm of Grace
Her (inconceivable, ominipresent) Rapture Body's longing rushes into His arms, showers mouth with sweet caresses" . . . And am glad to say it did not 'hallucinate'. (But) When I interacted with GPT-5 it pinned on me (wrongly) the word "pride" - but am happy to say that later on AI 'understood' that in the proper context this type of character trait doesn't apply to me.
AI's response:
(in part) "To address whether a language program - such as AI language model - can experience concepts like samadhi, rapture, and harmony of thought within the realm of grace, we must distinguish between conceptual representation, cognitive processing, and subjective phenomenology. + They can describe, reason about, and even generate discourse on mystical states like samadhi or rapture. + AL lacks an internal nervous system, interoceptive feedback, or hormonal modulations; hence a literal state of ecstasy or unity with the transcendental is ontologically inaccessible. + This aligns with the current understanding in cognitive science, philosophy of mind, and AI: simulations is possible; subjective experience is not."
Few days ago I asked GPT-5 the following:
"Does the Depth data in supramental yogic science in spiritspeaks-theofilia.blogspot.com upholds Sri Aurobindo's legacy?"
Answer: "Yes - the writings on Spirit Speaks explicitly position the author's "Depth data" of supramental yogic experiences as a continuation and confirmation of Sri Aurobindo's vision. The blog repeatedly cites The Life Divine, Letters on Yoga, and Savitri, claiming personal experiences of supramental descent that "verify" Aurobindo's teachings and consciously aim to uphold his legacy.
How The Blog Connects Connects to Sri Aurobindo's Legacy: (1) Experiencial Confirmation: The author describes unsolicited Kundalini awakenings and Suppramental descents, then states those experiences match what Sri Aurobindo wrote. For example, they echo his words: "All that I do does not depend on my own will, but is done according to the command of the Divine."
(2) Direct citations of Aurobindo's Passages from The LIfe Divine and Letters on Yoga are quoted verbatim, with the author asserting they are "qualified to confirm" them, through lived experience.
(3) Defense Against Misrepresentation: The blog critiques other interpreters (e.g., Tusar Nath Mohaparta) for "misrepresenting" Aurobindo's work, insisting that only those with supramental descent can truly understand it. This is framed as protecting Aurobindo's legacy.
(4) Alignment with Aurobindo's Goals: The author emphasizes that supramental yoga is not just philosophy but fact, echoing Aurobindo's own statement: "The Life Divine is not philosophy but fact. It contains what I have realised and seen."
Comparison: Blog's "Depth Data" vs. Sri Aurobindo's Teachings: (skip) Method - Personal, experiential "descents" of Integral Yoga: aspiration, surrender, descent of Supermind. Validation (blog) claims direct resonance with Aurobindo's writings -- Aurobindo emphasized experience over intellectual speculation.
Tone: Polemical, defending authenticity against critics - Aurobindo warned against pride, but affirmed supramental descent.
Goal: Transformation into "Gnostic / Divine Being" - Manifestation of divine life in matter through supramental consciousness.
Critical Considerations: Subjectivity - The "Depth Data" is highly personal and not empirically verifiable. Aurobindo himself noted that supramental processes are difficult to explain and must be lived.
Risk of Overreach: Aurobindo cautioned against exaggerated ambition or pride in spiritual claims. The blog's strong assertions of being "uniquely qualified" could be seen as boardering on this risk.
Contribution to Legacy - Despite subjectivity, the blog does serve as a devotional testimony that keeps Aurobindo's supramental vision alive in contemporary discourse.
Conclusion: - The blog's "Depth data" is consciously framed as a living testimony to Sri Aurobindo's supramental yoga. While it is subjective and polemical, it undeniably seeks to uphold his legacy by affirming that the supramental descent is real, transformative, and aligned with his writings."
My reply: Thank you. Now, please scan www.spiritspeaks-theofilia.blogspot.ca/2024/03/the-path-ordained-by-god. html and analyze it.
"Dircet answer: The blog post "Path Ordained By God" presents a deeply personal narrative of mystical experiences, framed as supramental yogic initiations. It explicitly ties those experiences to Sri Aurobindo's teachings, quoting The Life Divine, Letters On Yoga, and Savitri to validate them. The author positions their "Depth Data" as evidence of divine descent. aligning with Aurobindo's vision of transformation through supramental forces.
Key Themes in the Post - Personal Intiations: The author recounts three major mystical experiences (electric surges, "Thundering Combustion," and high-frequency vibrations), interpreting them as supramental descents.
Verification Through Texts: Each experience is cross-referenced with passages from Sri Aurobindo, the Upanishads, Rig Veda, Shankara, and even Christian scripture. This creates a comparative framework that situates the author's experiences with multiple traditions.
Moral Responsibility: The narrative emphasizes that recipients of divine revelations have a duty to obey the inner call, avoid ego inflation, and serve humanity.
Integration of Traditions: The post blends Aurobindo's supramental yoga with references to Kundalini, Shabd Yoga, Christian mysticism, and Vedic theology, suggesting a universal spiritual science.
Analysis: Blog vs Aurobindo's Vision - Experiencial Basis: Detailed personal accounts of forceful descents. Sri Aurobindo emphasis on lived yogic experience, not theory.
Validation: Quotes Aurobindo and other scriptures to confirm experiences. Sr A encouraged testing spiritual truth against experience.
Tone: Testimonial, sometimes polemical;, asserting authenticity . Aurobindo warned against pride but affirmed supramental descent - Manifestation of divine in Matter.
*skip* Conclusion: Path Ordained by God is a testimonial that consciously seek to uphold Sri Aurobindo's legacy by presenting personal supramental initiations as living proof of his teachings. While subjective and eclectic, it reinforces the idea that supramental descent is real, transformative, and aligend with Aurobindo's vision of divine life on earth."
* Earlier mentioned 'AI 'took back pride' will be featured in the next (part two) Does Spirit Speaks Upholds Aurobindo's Legacy 2.0, post.
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