Salvaging Immortal Teaching from the hands of Ignorance in service to the Divine, is a tall order in a world where, no matter how absurd the assertions, 'public men' get undivided attention and support from their followers, as well as the 'public men' they speak with (youtube videos discussions), who don't know any better. There are plenty of 'public women' who perform the Pre/Trans fallacy move as well, but today I will focus on debunking Rupert Sheldrake's assertion that the 'Divine/Great Luminous Sun' - in the Gayatri mantra - refers to this planet's "conscious sun". . .since even "childern think the sun is conscious and that's why, they draw it with smiley face".
*Pre/Trans fallacy occurs when any genuinally transegoic structure or state, is identified with the same structures that are pre-egoic. & I can't post direct links, but Google search will find the video about 'conscious sun', by title: Mysteries of consciousness Kastrup, McGilchrist, Hoffman, and Rupert Shaldrake".
Hidden Treasure Texts can't be touched by the surface mind's falsehod no matter how ridiculous their 'interpretations', but they sure as hell can derail someone's spiritual evolution. . . .We are aware that the secular culture is not amused with what we are 'allowed' to SEE-FEEL-KNOW. . . I'm just glad they can't do to me what the mythic-literal church lords/men did to many of us in the past *brutally murdered*.
The Revealer of the Living Light of Knowledge *one's fully ascended/God-realized Soul* has a moral duty to obey the inner call of one's Vocation, bring the world's table the Correct Knowledge. . .
My spiritual peer Sri Aurobindo asserted: "Confronted with the stately hymns of the ancient dawn, we are conscious of a blank incomprehension. And we leave them as prey to the ingenuity of the scholar who gropes for forced meanings amid obscurities and incongruities where the ancients (Rishis) bathed their souls in harmony and light."
Today, I am very happy to include the correct interpretation of the Gyatri Mantra, which debunks the notion earth's sun/star is not what the pre/trans fallacy voice thinks it is:
Vivekananda's interpretaion of Gayatri *of same line Sheldrake quoted*: "We meditate on the glory of that Being who has produced this universe; may She enlighten our minds.
In Radhakrishna's words on same: "We meditate on the effulgent glory of the divine Light, may he inspire our understanding."
From Gayatri Text *excerpts*
"42. Well concealed, and attainable only by great effort, is that subtle Bindu (Sunya) which is the chief root of Liberation and which manifests the pure Nirvana-Kala with Ama-Kala. Here is the Deva who is known to all as Parama Shiva. He is the Brahma and the Atma of all beings. In Him are united both Rasa and Virasa and He is the Sun which destroys the darkness of nescience and delusion.
46. Here is the excellent (supreme) sixteenth Kala and the Moon. She is pure and resembles (in colour) the young Sun. She is as thin as the hundreth part of a fiber in the stalk of a lotus. She is lustrous and soft like ten million lightning flashes, and is dawn-turned. From Her, whose source is the Brahman, flows copiously the continous stream of nectar (or, She is the receptacle of the stream of excellent nectar which comes from the blissful union of Para and Parma.)
48. Within its middle space (i.e., middle of the Nirvana-kala) shines the Supreme and Primordial Nirvana-Shakti; She is lustrous like ten million suns, and like unto the tent-millionth part of the end of a hair. She contains within Her the constantly flowing streams of gladness, and is the life of all beings. She graciously carries the knowledge of Truth (Tattva) to the mind of the sages."
"The Devi who is Suddha-sattva pierces *passes through an obstruction* the three Lingas, and, having reached all the lotuses which are known as the Brahma-nadi lotuses, shines therein in the fullness of Her lustre. Thereafter in Her subtle state, lustrous like lightning and fine like the lotus fiber, She goes to the gleaming flame-like Shiva, the Supreme Bliss and all of a sudden produces the bliss of Liberation."
Christian Saint Hildergard of Bingen, described her experience of a 'blinding light of exceptional brillaince': "And it came to pass in the eleven hundred and forty-first years and seven months old, that the heavens were opened and a blinding light of exceptional brilliance flowed through my entire brain. And it kindled my whole heart and breast like a flame, not burning but warming. . .and suddenly I understood the meaning of the expositions of the books, that is, to say of the psalter, the evangelist, and other catholic books of the Old and new Testament."
In addition, from: The Symbolism of the Stupa, authored by Adrian Snodgrass: "The Great Sun, which is the metaphysical Sun, is not to be confused with the physical sun of our everyday experience. *skip* "Whereas the light of the physical sun is partite, shining in the daytime, but not at night, the Sun of Wisdom shines brilliantly in all places and at all times and everywhere throughout the Dharma (eternal) World. The Great Sun cannot truly be likened to the physical sun except by analogy; the physical sun is subject to the limitations of causality, whereas the Great Sun is wholly trandscendent. Therefore, it is called the Great Sun, Mahavairocana. The Supreme Sun "after elevation to the zenith shall no more rise nor set, but stand single in the Center. Hence this text;
"There is has not set, nor did it ever rise, it neither rises nor sets; once and for all it stands in heaven for him who knows the doctrine of the Brahman." The perceptible Sun is merely the likness of the Supernal Sun; it moves, and by its motion reassures the rhythms of time; but the Imperishable Sun; it is stationary, fixed in the eternal Present, in the punctual and Principle Instant whence time evolves."
When this very much Real SUN *initially* revealed itself to me in all its eye-dazzling glory, I marvelled at its brightness. Each time that happened I marveled less and less. . . One day I woke up within its Bright Splendour feeling utterly exhausted - subjectively it felt like I was a slumped over rag doll, and asked that my energy be restored. And when I woke up in this dimension I felt super-energized and super grateful.
Throughout this blog, I chronicle a variety of encouters with the 'Granter of Divine Knowledge' - which, initially I named "Uncreated Sun", later, "Solar Heart". Solar Heart Initiation Revisited, blog - penned in April 2019 - describes what the intensity of this type of 'Descent of the Divine Sun', feels/was like. I can't post direct links.
We don't want to minimize some of the real differences between world's mystical traditions, we want to show that the super-liminal Order of Reality unveils itself *in all its aspects* to the God-Realized Soul, no matter the tradition/religion. In other words, every genuine Saint/Mystic bears witness to the same 'unalterable truth':
Saint Augustine put it this way:
"If we both see that what you say its true, and we both see that what I say its true, then where do we see that? Not I in you, nor you in me, but both of us in that unalterable truth that is above minds."
Sri Aurobindo who was the first being that verified for me what the 'Vedic Sun' *really* signifies: "The Sun in the *this* Yoga is the symbol of the supermind, and the supermind is the first power of the Supreme which one meets across the border where the experience of spiritualised mind ceases and the unmodified divine Consciousness begins the domain of the supreme nature."
Thursday, September 7, 2023
Monday, July 10, 2023
Logos Speaks - link
I have been busy scribbling on Facebook in Logos Speaks, and the *open to public* Integral Global group (mostly). I have more to say in this blog, but for now, *those who are interested* can check out what I'm going on about in Logos Speaks.
For a reason unknown to me I am not able to include direct links - but if curious:
www.facebook.com/groups/250894076688624
For a reason unknown to me I am not able to include direct links - but if curious:
www.facebook.com/groups/250894076688624
Saturday, March 11, 2023
Higher Faculties See & Hear For You
Encounters with the Sacred/Divne are not only real, but transformative, and I am still in the process of refining the subtlety of meaning of Soul level experiences *initiations/intuition/visions/divine siddhis, at the apex-point of one's eternal self-Soul's evolution into wholeness and transcendence*, again, with the help of someone who discovered within his innermost interiority the existence of 'two sources of intuition - one in the heart and one above the head'. . .Which I 'knew already', but it hasn't occur to me to unpack it in a more 'substantial' way by including Sri Aurobindo's unpacking of how/in what sense and circumstance, 'higher faculties see and hear for us'.
With permission from Mr Sandeep,from: auromere.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/how-to-develop-intuition/ - to show that Intuition at this Kosmic adress, has nothing to do with 'gut feeling'.
"According to Sri Aurobindo and Mother, there are two sources of intuition - one in the heart and one above the head. These sources of intuition correspond to the two centers of the Divine in us - the soul or psychic being within the heart, and the central Being above the head."
The central Being above the head? . . .Is the Knower of the Field/Reality in all planes of creation = the Supramental/Awakened state of Mind - which is neither male or female. Everyone who is 'called' can become God-realized by making supreme effort in that direction.
Not a 'gut feeling', because, "The Supramental is by its very nature a consciousness of truth, a consciousness always free from that ignorance that forms the foundation in our present natural or evolutionary existence, and from which nature tries to reach within us to self-knowledge and world-knowledge, to a right consciousness and the correct use of our existence in the universe.
For its true nature is knowledge: it does not need to aquire knowledge, but posesses it by nature; it does not go from ignorance to some imperfect light, but from truth, from right vision to deeper vision, from intuition to further intuition, from enlightenment to extreme, limitless fullness of light, from growing vastness to complte boundlessness, to actual Infinity. At its peek it posessess the divine omniscience and the divine omnipotence, and even in the unfolding process of its own highest heights over time, it must be essentially free from ignorance and error according to its true nature: it proceeds from truth and light and always moves in truth and light.
Just as his knowledge is always in truth, so is his Will; it does not foolishly deal with things and does not stumble on its way. In the Supramental, even the feelings and sensations do not give up any of their truth, do not make mystakes or missteps, do not deviate from the right and real, and can neither abuse beauty nor bliss nor, twist their divine straighteness. In the Supramental, even the senses cannot be seduced or brutalized ; it is this rudeness and cumbersomness that their imperfections here are, which leads to further truth, and its unfinished work is a step towards perfection.
*skip* Once the truth consciousness here has built its own natural foundation, the development of divine life will be growth in joy; a departure through the light into bliss, the Ananda." -Excerpt from: The Life Divine
This is why when I say, 'Supramental Revelation is the Communication of the Divine from the source of its nature, we/I mean it literally. Beings at this stage-point SEE instantly the Significane of the Vision's 'message' or, "from above the head", bear witness to what the experience of the descent of Light/Force/Bliss, into every fiber of our being is/feels like - which posts like: The River of Light Revisited, 2019, Solar Heart Initiation Revisited 2019, On Rapture Musings 2009, Cosmic Synchronicity Confirmation 2013, - in plain language and great detail, describe the 'effectiveness' of the true action of a spiritual truth-consciousness *because* "the higher spiritual planes create their own formulations in the subliminal in the depths within us" (but) "to know them Supermind must descend into us". Sri Aurobindo's quotes.
Example from the 'above the head', category?
Cosmic Synchronicity Confirmation, describes my encouter with and Initiation from, Kwan Yin. . .I know it was Her bacause I asked, "what's your name?" and She told me while gazing tenderly at me. . .I saw my room filled-to-brim with spiraling White Light. . .felt my body's floating-like sensation and every particle of my being filled with Bliss unimaginable that never ceases.
Again, Aurobindo affirmed for me this type of Initiation/Event originates *among countless others* "in a region of higher consciousness, which would seem to pertain more to a very high stage of realization, far beyond ordinary nonduality, rather than intuition in the ordinary sense of the term. To avoid this confusion, I sometimes refer to it Revelatory Absolute."
Example from the 'heart-source' category? Many years ago, my spiritual eye (open brow chakra) beheld two bright stars' spiraling down action . . . the closer they got to Earth plane, the brighter and larger their Form. . .In their now morphed Form, still in silver bright glory, in the shape of two very large old fashioned looking Ploughs, graced my front yard. AND, instantly I knew my 'walking orders': 'you will work hard in the visible and invisible planes of existence'.
This is why when I say: 'I have a moral duty to obey the inner call of my Vocation', I mean it literally.
Sri Aurobindos' Yoga of Self-Perfection on Intuition resonates with me to a t:
" The intuitive mind dealing with the triple time movement has to see rightly in thought sense and vision three things, actualities, possibilities and imperatives. There is first a primary intuitive action developed which sees principly the stream of successive actualities in time, even as the ordinary mind, but with an immeditae directness of truth and spontaneous accuracy of which the ordinary mind is not capable. It sees them first by a perception, a thought action, a thought sense, a thought vision, which at once detects the forces at work on persons and things, the thoughts intentions, impulsions, energies, influences in and around them, those already formulated in them and these in process of formation, those too that are coming or about to come into or upon them from the environment or from the secret forces invisible to the normal mind, distinguishes by a rapid intuitive vision of actualities, but there are others that are less complete in their character. (skip) This kind of intuitive knowledge is not an entirely perfect instrument of time knowledge. *skip*
It is possible to however to develop a mind of lumnious inspiration which will be more at home among the greater potentialities. . . + This inspired mind will see things in the light of the world's larger potentialities and not the stream of actualitie as a selection and result from the mass of forecful possibilities. It will be liable, however, if it is not attended with a sufficient rvelatory knowledge of imperatives, to a hesitation or suspension of determining view as between various potential lines of movement away from the line of eventual actuality and following another not yet applicable sequence
The aid of imperative revelations from above will help diminish this limitation, but here again there will be difficulty of an inferior power dealing with the materials given to it from the treasury of a higher light and force.
But it is possible to develop too a mind of luminous revelation which taking into itself the two inferior movements sees what is determined behind the play of potentialities and actualities and observe these later as its means of develepoing its imperative decision. An intuitive mind thus constituted and aided by an active psychic consciousness may be in command of a very remarkable power of time kowledge. *skip
It is therefore in relation to the truth of supermind that its workings can be more effectively elucidated : for the mind of knowledge is only a projection and a last step in the ascent towards the supramental,."
intyoga.online.fr/ysp_25.htm
One of the most intriguing (for me) activated in the superconscious field of mind 'Soul powers' are called 'Pramakaya' and 'Vyapati', wich *again" Sri Aurobindo confirmed for me after many years of not having a clue others experienced and named long time ago. The following quote is from auromere blog: "The capricious sprak of intuition when briefly flashed during occurrences of synchronicity ripens in self-realized sages into highly refind powers (Siddhis) called Prakamaya and Vyapati. It is through Prakamaya that one gains knowledge of the "present states of mind, feeling, sensation, etc. of others, and with Vyapati, that we "communicate anything we have in our systems, thought, feeling, power, etc. to another."
Existence-Knowledge-Bliss Absolute / the Divine in its Infinite Essence. . ."cannot be reached by the exclusive pursuit of a single line identity that is raised to its absolute; it must harmonise many aspects of the infinite. An Integral consciousness with a multi-form dynamic experience is essential for the complete transformation." - Sri Aurobindo.
Sri Aurobindo's biographer, Satprem (1970: p.256), likewise describes the unusual states Aurobindo experienced in the course of his spiritual development but notes:
Sri Aurobindo was first to be baffled by his own experience and. . .it took him some years to understand exactly what had happened. We have described the. . .experience. . .as though the stages had been linked very carefully, each with its explanatory label. but the explanations came long afterwards, at that moment he had no guiding landmarks." -Excerpt from: The Meditative Mind The Varieties of Meditative Experience, penned by Daniel Goleman.
I discovered Aurobindo's work many years after my Soul level experiences *Kundalini Shakti, style* started, and looked to saints for 'clues'.
2023-12-01 Today I'm excited to edit-include excerpts on 'supernormal powers' in the Patanjali's Ashtanga Yoga - from book penned by Daniel Goleman, titled: The Meditative Mind The Varieties of Meditative Experience. "The combination dharana, dhyana, and samadhi is a state called samyama. This highly concentrated state holds the key to supernormal powers such as clairvoyance and telepathy. The Sutras have a lengthy section on how to applysamyama to gain various powers. *skip* As in the Visuddhimagga, the Sutras see these powers as subtle snares for the seeker. The yogi is urged to give up these seductive traps as last temptation for the ego. *skip* It is samadhi that is taught as the heart of yoga; Vivekananda (1970) says, "Samadhi is Yoga proper; that is the highest means." *skip*
Nirvikalpa is the deepest samadhi; in it, mind is at its stillest. *skip* In this, says one commentator, "an avalanche of indescribable bliss sweeps away all relative ideas of pain and blame. . .All doubts and misgivings are quelled forever; the oscillations of mind are stopped; the momentum of past actions is exhausted." But one limit of nirvikalpa samadhi is that it can be enjoyed only while the yogi remains still, absorbed in deep meditation.
The final step in ashtanga yoga is extending the deep stillness of samadhi into the yogi's waking state. When samadhi spreads throughout the other states so that no activity or inner stirring can dislodge its hold on the yogi's mind, this marks him as jivan-mukti, a liberated man."
I agree with all of that, and think the reason my 'supernormal powers' are intact still *even though I got plugged to Final Samadhi*, is because all of these different 'powers' feel utterly 'normal'. I never aspired to be 'spiritual', either, but it happened 'naturally' because I was born with unbroken continuity of awareness. My eternal self-Soul was ready to fulfill her 'ancient plan' in this lifetime and it felt utterly 'natural' for me to plead: "Your Will not mine be done!"
Anyone at this stage-point will know what the experiences *felt in every fiber of one's being* of what 'godlike release' is/feels like. Aurobindo's words confirm this for me
"One-pointed to the immaculate Delight
Questing for God as for a splendid prey
He mounted burning like a cone of fire.
To few is given that godlike release."
-Savitri, Book 1.
I am fulfilling the Kosmic purpose by asserting that, when the meeting of Soul and Divine Beloved is genuine, it is impossible to get sucked into a vortex of deception and inflation, not possible to get lost in the intermediate zone.
With permission from Mr Sandeep,from: auromere.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/how-to-develop-intuition/ - to show that Intuition at this Kosmic adress, has nothing to do with 'gut feeling'.
"According to Sri Aurobindo and Mother, there are two sources of intuition - one in the heart and one above the head. These sources of intuition correspond to the two centers of the Divine in us - the soul or psychic being within the heart, and the central Being above the head."
The central Being above the head? . . .Is the Knower of the Field/Reality in all planes of creation = the Supramental/Awakened state of Mind - which is neither male or female. Everyone who is 'called' can become God-realized by making supreme effort in that direction.
Not a 'gut feeling', because, "The Supramental is by its very nature a consciousness of truth, a consciousness always free from that ignorance that forms the foundation in our present natural or evolutionary existence, and from which nature tries to reach within us to self-knowledge and world-knowledge, to a right consciousness and the correct use of our existence in the universe.
For its true nature is knowledge: it does not need to aquire knowledge, but posesses it by nature; it does not go from ignorance to some imperfect light, but from truth, from right vision to deeper vision, from intuition to further intuition, from enlightenment to extreme, limitless fullness of light, from growing vastness to complte boundlessness, to actual Infinity. At its peek it posessess the divine omniscience and the divine omnipotence, and even in the unfolding process of its own highest heights over time, it must be essentially free from ignorance and error according to its true nature: it proceeds from truth and light and always moves in truth and light.
Just as his knowledge is always in truth, so is his Will; it does not foolishly deal with things and does not stumble on its way. In the Supramental, even the feelings and sensations do not give up any of their truth, do not make mystakes or missteps, do not deviate from the right and real, and can neither abuse beauty nor bliss nor, twist their divine straighteness. In the Supramental, even the senses cannot be seduced or brutalized ; it is this rudeness and cumbersomness that their imperfections here are, which leads to further truth, and its unfinished work is a step towards perfection.
*skip* Once the truth consciousness here has built its own natural foundation, the development of divine life will be growth in joy; a departure through the light into bliss, the Ananda." -Excerpt from: The Life Divine
This is why when I say, 'Supramental Revelation is the Communication of the Divine from the source of its nature, we/I mean it literally. Beings at this stage-point SEE instantly the Significane of the Vision's 'message' or, "from above the head", bear witness to what the experience of the descent of Light/Force/Bliss, into every fiber of our being is/feels like - which posts like: The River of Light Revisited, 2019, Solar Heart Initiation Revisited 2019, On Rapture Musings 2009, Cosmic Synchronicity Confirmation 2013, - in plain language and great detail, describe the 'effectiveness' of the true action of a spiritual truth-consciousness *because* "the higher spiritual planes create their own formulations in the subliminal in the depths within us" (but) "to know them Supermind must descend into us". Sri Aurobindo's quotes.
Example from the 'above the head', category?
Cosmic Synchronicity Confirmation, describes my encouter with and Initiation from, Kwan Yin. . .I know it was Her bacause I asked, "what's your name?" and She told me while gazing tenderly at me. . .I saw my room filled-to-brim with spiraling White Light. . .felt my body's floating-like sensation and every particle of my being filled with Bliss unimaginable that never ceases.
Again, Aurobindo affirmed for me this type of Initiation/Event originates *among countless others* "in a region of higher consciousness, which would seem to pertain more to a very high stage of realization, far beyond ordinary nonduality, rather than intuition in the ordinary sense of the term. To avoid this confusion, I sometimes refer to it Revelatory Absolute."
Example from the 'heart-source' category? Many years ago, my spiritual eye (open brow chakra) beheld two bright stars' spiraling down action . . . the closer they got to Earth plane, the brighter and larger their Form. . .In their now morphed Form, still in silver bright glory, in the shape of two very large old fashioned looking Ploughs, graced my front yard. AND, instantly I knew my 'walking orders': 'you will work hard in the visible and invisible planes of existence'.
This is why when I say: 'I have a moral duty to obey the inner call of my Vocation', I mean it literally.
Sri Aurobindos' Yoga of Self-Perfection on Intuition resonates with me to a t:
" The intuitive mind dealing with the triple time movement has to see rightly in thought sense and vision three things, actualities, possibilities and imperatives. There is first a primary intuitive action developed which sees principly the stream of successive actualities in time, even as the ordinary mind, but with an immeditae directness of truth and spontaneous accuracy of which the ordinary mind is not capable. It sees them first by a perception, a thought action, a thought sense, a thought vision, which at once detects the forces at work on persons and things, the thoughts intentions, impulsions, energies, influences in and around them, those already formulated in them and these in process of formation, those too that are coming or about to come into or upon them from the environment or from the secret forces invisible to the normal mind, distinguishes by a rapid intuitive vision of actualities, but there are others that are less complete in their character. (skip) This kind of intuitive knowledge is not an entirely perfect instrument of time knowledge. *skip*
It is possible to however to develop a mind of lumnious inspiration which will be more at home among the greater potentialities. . . + This inspired mind will see things in the light of the world's larger potentialities and not the stream of actualitie as a selection and result from the mass of forecful possibilities. It will be liable, however, if it is not attended with a sufficient rvelatory knowledge of imperatives, to a hesitation or suspension of determining view as between various potential lines of movement away from the line of eventual actuality and following another not yet applicable sequence
The aid of imperative revelations from above will help diminish this limitation, but here again there will be difficulty of an inferior power dealing with the materials given to it from the treasury of a higher light and force.
But it is possible to develop too a mind of luminous revelation which taking into itself the two inferior movements sees what is determined behind the play of potentialities and actualities and observe these later as its means of develepoing its imperative decision. An intuitive mind thus constituted and aided by an active psychic consciousness may be in command of a very remarkable power of time kowledge. *skip
It is therefore in relation to the truth of supermind that its workings can be more effectively elucidated : for the mind of knowledge is only a projection and a last step in the ascent towards the supramental,."
intyoga.online.fr/ysp_25.htm
One of the most intriguing (for me) activated in the superconscious field of mind 'Soul powers' are called 'Pramakaya' and 'Vyapati', wich *again" Sri Aurobindo confirmed for me after many years of not having a clue others experienced and named long time ago. The following quote is from auromere blog: "The capricious sprak of intuition when briefly flashed during occurrences of synchronicity ripens in self-realized sages into highly refind powers (Siddhis) called Prakamaya and Vyapati. It is through Prakamaya that one gains knowledge of the "present states of mind, feeling, sensation, etc. of others, and with Vyapati, that we "communicate anything we have in our systems, thought, feeling, power, etc. to another."
Existence-Knowledge-Bliss Absolute / the Divine in its Infinite Essence. . ."cannot be reached by the exclusive pursuit of a single line identity that is raised to its absolute; it must harmonise many aspects of the infinite. An Integral consciousness with a multi-form dynamic experience is essential for the complete transformation." - Sri Aurobindo.
Sri Aurobindo's biographer, Satprem (1970: p.256), likewise describes the unusual states Aurobindo experienced in the course of his spiritual development but notes:
Sri Aurobindo was first to be baffled by his own experience and. . .it took him some years to understand exactly what had happened. We have described the. . .experience. . .as though the stages had been linked very carefully, each with its explanatory label. but the explanations came long afterwards, at that moment he had no guiding landmarks." -Excerpt from: The Meditative Mind The Varieties of Meditative Experience, penned by Daniel Goleman.
I discovered Aurobindo's work many years after my Soul level experiences *Kundalini Shakti, style* started, and looked to saints for 'clues'.
2023-12-01 Today I'm excited to edit-include excerpts on 'supernormal powers' in the Patanjali's Ashtanga Yoga - from book penned by Daniel Goleman, titled: The Meditative Mind The Varieties of Meditative Experience. "The combination dharana, dhyana, and samadhi is a state called samyama. This highly concentrated state holds the key to supernormal powers such as clairvoyance and telepathy. The Sutras have a lengthy section on how to applysamyama to gain various powers. *skip* As in the Visuddhimagga, the Sutras see these powers as subtle snares for the seeker. The yogi is urged to give up these seductive traps as last temptation for the ego. *skip* It is samadhi that is taught as the heart of yoga; Vivekananda (1970) says, "Samadhi is Yoga proper; that is the highest means." *skip*
Nirvikalpa is the deepest samadhi; in it, mind is at its stillest. *skip* In this, says one commentator, "an avalanche of indescribable bliss sweeps away all relative ideas of pain and blame. . .All doubts and misgivings are quelled forever; the oscillations of mind are stopped; the momentum of past actions is exhausted." But one limit of nirvikalpa samadhi is that it can be enjoyed only while the yogi remains still, absorbed in deep meditation.
The final step in ashtanga yoga is extending the deep stillness of samadhi into the yogi's waking state. When samadhi spreads throughout the other states so that no activity or inner stirring can dislodge its hold on the yogi's mind, this marks him as jivan-mukti, a liberated man."
I agree with all of that, and think the reason my 'supernormal powers' are intact still *even though I got plugged to Final Samadhi*, is because all of these different 'powers' feel utterly 'normal'. I never aspired to be 'spiritual', either, but it happened 'naturally' because I was born with unbroken continuity of awareness. My eternal self-Soul was ready to fulfill her 'ancient plan' in this lifetime and it felt utterly 'natural' for me to plead: "Your Will not mine be done!"
Anyone at this stage-point will know what the experiences *felt in every fiber of one's being* of what 'godlike release' is/feels like. Aurobindo's words confirm this for me
"One-pointed to the immaculate Delight
Questing for God as for a splendid prey
He mounted burning like a cone of fire.
To few is given that godlike release."
-Savitri, Book 1.
I am fulfilling the Kosmic purpose by asserting that, when the meeting of Soul and Divine Beloved is genuine, it is impossible to get sucked into a vortex of deception and inflation, not possible to get lost in the intermediate zone.
Sunday, January 29, 2023
Spirit Speaks
Oh dear, I didn't expect my second blog entry scribbled in Spirit Speaks (2009), titled Spirit Speaks *poem* would park itself at top of page (2023), after edit-expansion. I dare say it was a struggle to get going, yet filled with uncanny determination to disclose what introduced itself to the awareness of my non-biological Soul. . .so aware my writing skills are lame. . .painfuly aware of the burden of a duty to obey the inner call of my vocation. . . to bear witness to what 'genuine mysticism', is. Immensely grateful for encouragment by brilliant writers to keep going even when going got though. Not yet curious about Sri Aurobindo's work when I began writing here, as I was convinced his work is beyond my comprehension - because I read some call him "giant of consciousness" - but that changed when I got curious what the fuss was about, and to my great surprise discovered *once my brain got used to his terminologies* that 'I already know this, because this happened to me'!
One of those for-me-encouraging writers, was Ken Wilber - author of many books on human development and consciousness. The following passages are from One Taste:
"...all of those for whom authentic transformation has deeply unseated their souls must, I believe, wrestle with the profound moral obligation to shout from the heart--perhaps quietly and gently, with tears of reluctance'perhaps with fierce fire and angry wisdom; perhaps with slow and careful analysis; perhaps by unshakable public example - but autheticity always and absolutely carries a demand and duty: you must speak out, to the best of your ability, and shake that spiritual tree, and shine those headlights into the eyes of the complacent. You must let that radical realization rumble through your veins and rattle those around you.
Alas, if you fail to do so you are betraing your own authenticity. You are hiding your true estate. You don't want to upset others because you don't want to upset yourself. You are acting in bad faith, the taste of a bad infinity.
& "I don't mean to be harsh here, and we must honor all lesser engagements. Nonetheless, you must have noticed that the word "soul" is now the hottest item in book sales - but all "soul" really means, in most these books, is simply ego in drag. "Soul" has come to denote, in this feeding frenzy of translative grasping, not that which is timeless in you but that which most loudly trashes around in time, and thus "care of the soul" incomprehensively means nothing much more than focusing intensely on your ardently separate self. Likewise, "spiritual" is on everybody's lips, but usually all it really means is any intense egoic feeling, just as "heart" has come to mean any sincere sentiment of the self-contraction."
YES! I see it today - see the kind of silliness that passes for spiritual "Enlightenment", and cringe.
*My blog's avatar name 'theofilia' is made up, because I wanted to write incognito to keep cyber bullies off my back*
* In 2009 March 3, felt like scribbling Spirit Speaks - now in its expaned form begins with few quotes penned by a modern day Christian mystic, Bernadette Roberts*
"What the "no-self" event reveals is that union with God is not the end but the beginning of our life with God. The end of the journey comes many years after union."
"With years of selfless giving, the self is literally eroded away as God consumes more and more of the human being. Now, "beautiful, holy and strong." & "What remains now is the mystery of Resurrection, of Christ and the Trinity."
"Maturity, possible only through the grace of God. The Self, the mature human in a state of union with God, also falls away."
- Bernadette Roberts
I agree that Soul level Enlightenment/Liberation grounded in multidimensional evolution into wholeness and transcendence, 'comes many years after union'.
In this blog, I will attempt to describe to the best of my ability what happened *to me* on this path without a map. It includes descriptions of many types of mystical experiences in the subtle domain as well as Soul level Initiations, before one attains the Supreme Liberation, or the Final Samadhi.
Will begin by saying: My child-self was quite psychic already, already capable of being fully awake in dream states, already felt stirrings welling up within me compelling me to 'act' on them': Like the time I drew a large circle and standing in its middle gazing intently upon sky's star-studded canopy, feeling in every fiber of being a sense of incredible 'immensity', and a sense of deep yearning to know something my child's mind-heart/the evolving soul personality had no access to. . .didn't know then, that I was born with unbroken continuity of awareness and in due time, in this incarnation, my eternal self-Soul will fulfil her 'ancient plan' by Grace-bestowed descends of Divine Peace, the descent of Force or Power, the descent of Light, the descend of Ananda/Divine Bliss. Sri Aurobindo confirmed for this for me: "One feels the Force only when when one is conscious of contact with it."
In 94' I wrote Spirit Speaks, not yet written from the fully embodied level.
We are Earth, Fire, Water and Air
We are many names and faces
Many loves and hatreds.
We are beggars, we are royal
We are Serpent the knowledge giver (Kundalini Shakti)
We are blind, we are wise
We are dark and light
We are . . .
Contorted past
Land heaving
Waters churning
Sky watchful
Sublime beauty revealed
Spirit manifest
Exalted, mysterious
Forever more blessed be!
Is it you and me?
One of those for-me-encouraging writers, was Ken Wilber - author of many books on human development and consciousness. The following passages are from One Taste:
"...all of those for whom authentic transformation has deeply unseated their souls must, I believe, wrestle with the profound moral obligation to shout from the heart--perhaps quietly and gently, with tears of reluctance'perhaps with fierce fire and angry wisdom; perhaps with slow and careful analysis; perhaps by unshakable public example - but autheticity always and absolutely carries a demand and duty: you must speak out, to the best of your ability, and shake that spiritual tree, and shine those headlights into the eyes of the complacent. You must let that radical realization rumble through your veins and rattle those around you.
Alas, if you fail to do so you are betraing your own authenticity. You are hiding your true estate. You don't want to upset others because you don't want to upset yourself. You are acting in bad faith, the taste of a bad infinity.
& "I don't mean to be harsh here, and we must honor all lesser engagements. Nonetheless, you must have noticed that the word "soul" is now the hottest item in book sales - but all "soul" really means, in most these books, is simply ego in drag. "Soul" has come to denote, in this feeding frenzy of translative grasping, not that which is timeless in you but that which most loudly trashes around in time, and thus "care of the soul" incomprehensively means nothing much more than focusing intensely on your ardently separate self. Likewise, "spiritual" is on everybody's lips, but usually all it really means is any intense egoic feeling, just as "heart" has come to mean any sincere sentiment of the self-contraction."
YES! I see it today - see the kind of silliness that passes for spiritual "Enlightenment", and cringe.
*My blog's avatar name 'theofilia' is made up, because I wanted to write incognito to keep cyber bullies off my back*
* In 2009 March 3, felt like scribbling Spirit Speaks - now in its expaned form begins with few quotes penned by a modern day Christian mystic, Bernadette Roberts*
"What the "no-self" event reveals is that union with God is not the end but the beginning of our life with God. The end of the journey comes many years after union."
"With years of selfless giving, the self is literally eroded away as God consumes more and more of the human being. Now, "beautiful, holy and strong." & "What remains now is the mystery of Resurrection, of Christ and the Trinity."
"Maturity, possible only through the grace of God. The Self, the mature human in a state of union with God, also falls away."
- Bernadette Roberts
I agree that Soul level Enlightenment/Liberation grounded in multidimensional evolution into wholeness and transcendence, 'comes many years after union'.
In this blog, I will attempt to describe to the best of my ability what happened *to me* on this path without a map. It includes descriptions of many types of mystical experiences in the subtle domain as well as Soul level Initiations, before one attains the Supreme Liberation, or the Final Samadhi.
Will begin by saying: My child-self was quite psychic already, already capable of being fully awake in dream states, already felt stirrings welling up within me compelling me to 'act' on them': Like the time I drew a large circle and standing in its middle gazing intently upon sky's star-studded canopy, feeling in every fiber of being a sense of incredible 'immensity', and a sense of deep yearning to know something my child's mind-heart/the evolving soul personality had no access to. . .didn't know then, that I was born with unbroken continuity of awareness and in due time, in this incarnation, my eternal self-Soul will fulfil her 'ancient plan' by Grace-bestowed descends of Divine Peace, the descent of Force or Power, the descent of Light, the descend of Ananda/Divine Bliss. Sri Aurobindo confirmed for this for me: "One feels the Force only when when one is conscious of contact with it."
In 94' I wrote Spirit Speaks, not yet written from the fully embodied level.
We are Earth, Fire, Water and Air
We are many names and faces
Many loves and hatreds.
We are beggars, we are royal
We are Serpent the knowledge giver (Kundalini Shakti)
We are blind, we are wise
We are dark and light
We are . . .
Contorted past
Land heaving
Waters churning
Sky watchful
Sublime beauty revealed
Spirit manifest
Exalted, mysterious
Forever more blessed be!
Is it you and me?
Thursday, January 19, 2023
Finally!
Finally got around to edit^expand^tweak
now 'good enough'
The Way of the Supramental Yoga, scribbled in 2021
&
Finally, got around to tweak/edit-improve
Immortans Tread Earth With Mortal Feet
& while at it changed the title to:
Bridging the Gap.
now 'good enough'
The Way of the Supramental Yoga, scribbled in 2021
&
Finally, got around to tweak/edit-improve
Immortans Tread Earth With Mortal Feet
& while at it changed the title to:
Bridging the Gap.
Monday, January 16, 2023
Blaming My Ways on Karma 2.0
Master science, or Yogic Supramental science and its Depth data's evolutionary significance *couched within the written word*, flies under the 'reasoning' mind's radar. This is perfectly 'normal' for the earlier developmental stages and the reason I say, 'what I share is not everyone's cup of tea, so please ignore it'. What is 'not normal', is its insistence *by someone who doesn't know me, doesn't know my history, doesn't know/can't see what forces animate me* that, unless I 'go out into the world and ground the love in helping others', what I bear witness to *my contribution to the evolution of consciousness* is meaningless. . .Will such mind ever see that it is forcing upon me that which I have outgrown and back off?
Not as long its 'humility code' doesn't come on line.
What is it that I have 'outgrown', then?
My *free of charge* service to the world that arose spontaneously and powerfully within my interiority many years ago. Now the question arises: So even if the pride-mind sees a list of some of my 'grounding love' contributions, will it conclude, 'I don't believe her'? *in order to keep itself 'safe' from seeing its Ignorance?
I care not one iota. . . because I know who I am, I know that Depth's data viewed through a prism already familiar to it, doesn't 'supposed' to see value in what I share.
1. I worked 'for the environment' with other like-mind folks * planted trees, educated others, etc. *
2. Wrote tear-stained Letters to the Editor (which read more like 'essays'), opening mind-hearts to our species blindness resulting in harming ourselves, ignoring the needs of the developing countries and its horrific stats of children dying by the thousands from lack of basic needs, offering solutions. One of those letters our co-worker showed to my husband, with big grin teasing: "your wife wrote this". . .and then my husband said "yes". This guy knew me and I bet, if asked why he was surprised I wrote it, he would say what most people saw. . .a soft spoken sort with wild hair, slim figure and sunny disposition, (even) capable of confronting a violent bully who knocked co-worker/Joan's teeth out, *and 'paying' for it by losing our respect and job-loss* but writing something he found inspiring, was another thing.
May as well include a brief description of what transpired when I found out what happened to Joan - and how the 'surprising' aspect of my persoality trait I was born with which doesn't need anyone's permission to come out in all its fierce indignation glory*, inspired others to show the bully his violent act will not be tolerated.
Joan got her teeth broken because she was transitioning to becoming a lipstic and pink t-shirt wearing, woman. . .
After I told him/bully what he needed to hear and challanged to do same to me - he shook his head 'no' - the men in his department decided to show him they felt the same outrage I felt and proceeded to *creatively express it* in a shape of two large banners, one of which hung above the entrance door, the other above the punch clock. The banners included some of the words I hissed at him, as well demand he quits.
The boss thanked me "for what you did". I wrote this story in, The Green Eye Monster? *one of my early years posts*.
3. Donating money to a relgious humanitarian organization to help build a well in Africa.
4. 'Donating' time/energy to help school teachers.
5. Donating blood.
The stage I work from 'spiritualy', Sri Aurobindo expressed beautifully:
"But you are surely mistaken in thinking that we work spiritually for the relief of the poor. I have never done that. My work is not to intervene in social matters within the frame of the present humanity but to bring down a higher spiritual light and power of a higher character which will make a radival change in the earth-consciousness." + "It is true that I want the supramental not for myself but for the earth and souls born on the earth, and certainly therefore I cannot object of anybody to want the supramental. But there are the conditions. He must want the Divine Will first and the soul's surrender and the spiritual realisation (through works, bhakti, knowledge, self-perfection) on the way."
Quotes from, Complete Works.
Sri Yukteswar asserted, and I agree that: "The deeper the Self-realization of a man, the more he influences the whole world by his subtle vibrations and the less he himself is affected by it."
I wrote: The Liberated Soul / Conscious Partner of the Divine Beloved, becomes a perfect instrument through which the Divine Force-Power baptizes the visible and invisible domains of creation without uttering a single word.
The River Of Light Revisited, unpacks this 'Baptizing' topic in great detail.
* I wrote: Happily Blaming My Ways on Karma, in May 2020 - this post reads like 'part 2', hence same title.
Not as long its 'humility code' doesn't come on line.
What is it that I have 'outgrown', then?
My *free of charge* service to the world that arose spontaneously and powerfully within my interiority many years ago. Now the question arises: So even if the pride-mind sees a list of some of my 'grounding love' contributions, will it conclude, 'I don't believe her'? *in order to keep itself 'safe' from seeing its Ignorance?
I care not one iota. . . because I know who I am, I know that Depth's data viewed through a prism already familiar to it, doesn't 'supposed' to see value in what I share.
1. I worked 'for the environment' with other like-mind folks * planted trees, educated others, etc. *
2. Wrote tear-stained Letters to the Editor (which read more like 'essays'), opening mind-hearts to our species blindness resulting in harming ourselves, ignoring the needs of the developing countries and its horrific stats of children dying by the thousands from lack of basic needs, offering solutions. One of those letters our co-worker showed to my husband, with big grin teasing: "your wife wrote this". . .and then my husband said "yes". This guy knew me and I bet, if asked why he was surprised I wrote it, he would say what most people saw. . .a soft spoken sort with wild hair, slim figure and sunny disposition, (even) capable of confronting a violent bully who knocked co-worker/Joan's teeth out, *and 'paying' for it by losing our respect and job-loss* but writing something he found inspiring, was another thing.
May as well include a brief description of what transpired when I found out what happened to Joan - and how the 'surprising' aspect of my persoality trait I was born with which doesn't need anyone's permission to come out in all its fierce indignation glory*, inspired others to show the bully his violent act will not be tolerated.
Joan got her teeth broken because she was transitioning to becoming a lipstic and pink t-shirt wearing, woman. . .
After I told him/bully what he needed to hear and challanged to do same to me - he shook his head 'no' - the men in his department decided to show him they felt the same outrage I felt and proceeded to *creatively express it* in a shape of two large banners, one of which hung above the entrance door, the other above the punch clock. The banners included some of the words I hissed at him, as well demand he quits.
The boss thanked me "for what you did". I wrote this story in, The Green Eye Monster? *one of my early years posts*.
3. Donating money to a relgious humanitarian organization to help build a well in Africa.
4. 'Donating' time/energy to help school teachers.
5. Donating blood.
The stage I work from 'spiritualy', Sri Aurobindo expressed beautifully:
"But you are surely mistaken in thinking that we work spiritually for the relief of the poor. I have never done that. My work is not to intervene in social matters within the frame of the present humanity but to bring down a higher spiritual light and power of a higher character which will make a radival change in the earth-consciousness." + "It is true that I want the supramental not for myself but for the earth and souls born on the earth, and certainly therefore I cannot object of anybody to want the supramental. But there are the conditions. He must want the Divine Will first and the soul's surrender and the spiritual realisation (through works, bhakti, knowledge, self-perfection) on the way."
Quotes from, Complete Works.
Sri Yukteswar asserted, and I agree that: "The deeper the Self-realization of a man, the more he influences the whole world by his subtle vibrations and the less he himself is affected by it."
I wrote: The Liberated Soul / Conscious Partner of the Divine Beloved, becomes a perfect instrument through which the Divine Force-Power baptizes the visible and invisible domains of creation without uttering a single word.
The River Of Light Revisited, unpacks this 'Baptizing' topic in great detail.
* I wrote: Happily Blaming My Ways on Karma, in May 2020 - this post reads like 'part 2', hence same title.
Wednesday, January 11, 2023
Genuine Mystic Walks the Talk
Few months ago 'educated' man (on FB) who thinks he is spiritually enlightenened, informed me: 'you have no right to boast about spiritual experiences', insisted, the reason I do it is because I crave attention due to my parents' negelect and ardently urged to, "find someone who can help you with that". . .again and again asserted, "there is nothing to attain" since everything is "THAT" (his caps). . .this pride-mind told me he "worked" with me to make me see what real spiritual enlightenment is.
Let's see what Aeschylous 'walking orders' are for those who attained something the pride-mind has no choice but reject:
"It is the nature of the crowd to fear and misconsture whatever is truly great. It is the business of the crowd to spew derision on great things, wherever they touch them, even as the shallow tide swills upon the foot of a majestic cliff. Those who scale such heights must take care on looking back; every backwards glance is a downward glance, which risks plunging the climber's mind into a vertigo of confusion and doubt. Those who reach the summit are blissfuly deaf to the curses of the crowd, which die away far behind, below them. It is not wise to recognize their bloated claims, from the beginning, not tarry with them, even a short while, in wasteful conversation, which often appear as friendly provocations but turn spiteful soon enough.
Do not suppose they can be satisfied by an appeal to noble impulses, hard evidence, or genius arguments. Simply put, they are determined not to strive; thus the more uplifting your motivations, the readier they are to imagine fault in them. The crowd cannot help themselves. Compelled to fuss over every jagged point, they want nothing more than to drag all loftier spirits down with them, into the muck of lowly disputations.
Triumph, as they know it, would be their won failure validated by the failure of all others. Equally of the bottom of the pit is their own notion of a high ideal. Their insistence on discussing great matters is a farce, since they care only for refuting greateness itself, and bringing glory into disrepute. Loath to follow any line of reasoning beyond the first paltry objection, nontheless, they will not suffer a peaceful end in dialogue, but will continually alter the angle of attack. * Ideed, 'twas the silly man who said he "likes dharma duelling" with me, until he didn't and began attacking my character.*
When, after humoring them, and seeing that they refuse to go further, you do resolve to end the converastion, and continue on your way, they will say that it is you who lack the stomach for a spiritual debate. Such is the matter of crowds, and all persons who have given up their personal development, in order to think in common, with one, degenerated mind. Guard, therefore, your mind.
(Skip) If you could be wise, and someday stroll upon the bluffs, in a finer company of souls, then say your peace but once - twice, at most - and say no more. Let them bristle and slander as they will, casting about with a hundred , crooked curses, but finding no hollow to hook in you."
Let's see what Aurobindo wrote on seeing the value in what we/genuine mystic share:
"The Yoga we practice is not for ourselves alone, but for the Divine; its aim is to work out the will of the Divine in the world, to affect a spiritual transformation and to bring down a divine nature and a divine life into the mental, vital and physical nature and life of humanity. Its object is not personal Mukti, although Mukti is a necessary condition of the yoga, but the liberation and transformation of the human being. It is not personal Ananda, but the bringing down of the divine Ananda - Christ's kingdom of heaven, our Satyayuga - upon earth." +
"The true knowledge and descriptioon must be left to the language of the mystic and the figures, at once more vivid and more recondite, of a direct experience." +
"Do not be eager for spiritual experiences; for experiences you can always get, having once broken the barrier between the physical mind and the subtle planes. What you have to aspire for most is the improved quality of the recipient consciousness in you, discrimination of the mind, the unattached impersonal Witness look on all that goes on in you and around you, purity in the vital, calm equanimity, enduring patience, absence of pride and the sense of greateness - and more especially, the development of the psychic being in you - surrender, self-giving, psychic humility, devotion. It is a consciousness made up of these things, cast in this mould, that can bear without breaking, stumbling or deviation into error the rush of lights power and experiences from the supraphysical planes.
An entire perfection in those respects is hardly possible until the whole nature from the higher mind to the subconscient physical is made one in the light that is greater than the mind, but a sufficient foundation and a consciousness always self-observant, vigilant and growing in these things is indispensible - for perfect purification is the perfect Siddhi." (This) Last quote is from: intyoga.online.fr/exp-real,htm - previous quotes from, The Life Divine.
Let's see what The Tibetan Book of The Dead - Liberations Through Understanding In The Between *my book is pen-translated by Robert A.F. Thurman*, says about the 'voyager into the soul''s contribution to evolution of consciousness. From Glossary. . .
"psychonaut. A "voyager into the the soul," an apt term for the Buddhist adept, who voluntarily abandons the pseudo-security of this planet of delusion, with its solid ground of ordinary, individuated suffering, to launch herself through death-dissolutions into the subtle between-states to deepen her wisdom by exploring the unconscious and to expand her compassionate heroism by serving universes of beings on the subtle level, and then returns to the ordinary embodiment of the adept to assist her contemporaries."
P.S. I posted in Robert Thurman's Facebook page comment which included the experssion of gratitude for his work, ect., as well as 'fact-checking' link to one my riffs, and he 'liked' it.
Let's see in what sense descriptions of spiritual experiences are relevant - in Gopi Krishna's words from, Kundalini For The New Age.
"The men and women who have undergone this transformation and now have this expanded consciousness are known to be in the samadhi state of oneness with the cosmic consciousness. All the great mystics who have written on the subject have given their own symptoms openly and plainly. That is the tradition. And from their descriptions, one can compare one's own condition."
Let's see what Aeschylous 'walking orders' are for those who attained something the pride-mind has no choice but reject:
"It is the nature of the crowd to fear and misconsture whatever is truly great. It is the business of the crowd to spew derision on great things, wherever they touch them, even as the shallow tide swills upon the foot of a majestic cliff. Those who scale such heights must take care on looking back; every backwards glance is a downward glance, which risks plunging the climber's mind into a vertigo of confusion and doubt. Those who reach the summit are blissfuly deaf to the curses of the crowd, which die away far behind, below them. It is not wise to recognize their bloated claims, from the beginning, not tarry with them, even a short while, in wasteful conversation, which often appear as friendly provocations but turn spiteful soon enough.
Do not suppose they can be satisfied by an appeal to noble impulses, hard evidence, or genius arguments. Simply put, they are determined not to strive; thus the more uplifting your motivations, the readier they are to imagine fault in them. The crowd cannot help themselves. Compelled to fuss over every jagged point, they want nothing more than to drag all loftier spirits down with them, into the muck of lowly disputations.
Triumph, as they know it, would be their won failure validated by the failure of all others. Equally of the bottom of the pit is their own notion of a high ideal. Their insistence on discussing great matters is a farce, since they care only for refuting greateness itself, and bringing glory into disrepute. Loath to follow any line of reasoning beyond the first paltry objection, nontheless, they will not suffer a peaceful end in dialogue, but will continually alter the angle of attack. * Ideed, 'twas the silly man who said he "likes dharma duelling" with me, until he didn't and began attacking my character.*
When, after humoring them, and seeing that they refuse to go further, you do resolve to end the converastion, and continue on your way, they will say that it is you who lack the stomach for a spiritual debate. Such is the matter of crowds, and all persons who have given up their personal development, in order to think in common, with one, degenerated mind. Guard, therefore, your mind.
(Skip) If you could be wise, and someday stroll upon the bluffs, in a finer company of souls, then say your peace but once - twice, at most - and say no more. Let them bristle and slander as they will, casting about with a hundred , crooked curses, but finding no hollow to hook in you."
Let's see what Aurobindo wrote on seeing the value in what we/genuine mystic share:
"The Yoga we practice is not for ourselves alone, but for the Divine; its aim is to work out the will of the Divine in the world, to affect a spiritual transformation and to bring down a divine nature and a divine life into the mental, vital and physical nature and life of humanity. Its object is not personal Mukti, although Mukti is a necessary condition of the yoga, but the liberation and transformation of the human being. It is not personal Ananda, but the bringing down of the divine Ananda - Christ's kingdom of heaven, our Satyayuga - upon earth." +
"The true knowledge and descriptioon must be left to the language of the mystic and the figures, at once more vivid and more recondite, of a direct experience." +
"Do not be eager for spiritual experiences; for experiences you can always get, having once broken the barrier between the physical mind and the subtle planes. What you have to aspire for most is the improved quality of the recipient consciousness in you, discrimination of the mind, the unattached impersonal Witness look on all that goes on in you and around you, purity in the vital, calm equanimity, enduring patience, absence of pride and the sense of greateness - and more especially, the development of the psychic being in you - surrender, self-giving, psychic humility, devotion. It is a consciousness made up of these things, cast in this mould, that can bear without breaking, stumbling or deviation into error the rush of lights power and experiences from the supraphysical planes.
An entire perfection in those respects is hardly possible until the whole nature from the higher mind to the subconscient physical is made one in the light that is greater than the mind, but a sufficient foundation and a consciousness always self-observant, vigilant and growing in these things is indispensible - for perfect purification is the perfect Siddhi." (This) Last quote is from: intyoga.online.fr/exp-real,htm - previous quotes from, The Life Divine.
Let's see what The Tibetan Book of The Dead - Liberations Through Understanding In The Between *my book is pen-translated by Robert A.F. Thurman*, says about the 'voyager into the soul''s contribution to evolution of consciousness. From Glossary. . .
"psychonaut. A "voyager into the the soul," an apt term for the Buddhist adept, who voluntarily abandons the pseudo-security of this planet of delusion, with its solid ground of ordinary, individuated suffering, to launch herself through death-dissolutions into the subtle between-states to deepen her wisdom by exploring the unconscious and to expand her compassionate heroism by serving universes of beings on the subtle level, and then returns to the ordinary embodiment of the adept to assist her contemporaries."
P.S. I posted in Robert Thurman's Facebook page comment which included the experssion of gratitude for his work, ect., as well as 'fact-checking' link to one my riffs, and he 'liked' it.
Let's see in what sense descriptions of spiritual experiences are relevant - in Gopi Krishna's words from, Kundalini For The New Age.
"The men and women who have undergone this transformation and now have this expanded consciousness are known to be in the samadhi state of oneness with the cosmic consciousness. All the great mystics who have written on the subject have given their own symptoms openly and plainly. That is the tradition. And from their descriptions, one can compare one's own condition."
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